Showing posts with label Honda Turbo. Show all posts
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7 Jan 2014

Quick Drive: Honda Turbo Engines and Future Powertrain Tech

by Scott Evans of www.motortrend.com

Honda recently invited us to its research center and test track at Tochigi, Japan, to preview a number of powertrain technologies the company is working on and which will likely see production in the future. While we can only offer limited evaluations based on our one- or two-lap track test drives, we can give you an idea of what to expect from Honda’s future cars. Test drives included Honda’s new line of turbocharged three- and four-cylinder engines, a new eight-speed dual-clutch transmission with torque converter, a steer-by-wire system and a prototype vehicle built from lightweight carbon-fiber composites rather than aluminum and steel. All of these technologies are prototypes and are not production-ready.

1.0-liter Turbocharged Inline Three-Cylinder Engine


Envisioned as a replacement for small, naturally aspirated four-cylinder engines, this turbocharged I-3 makes 127 hp and 148 lb-ft of torque. That’s more than the 117 hp and 106 lb-ft from the 1.5-liter I-4 of the outgoing U.S.-spec Honda Fit. The difference is, the turbocharger gives this engine a better torque curve with more mid-range punch, so drivers won’t have to absolutely wring it out to get good acceleration. We sampled this engine in a European-spec Civic hatchback, where it performed comparably to any other Civic-sized car currently on the market. Overall acceleration was about the same, but accelerating in gear, such as to pass, was improved thanks to the turbo torque. Top-gear acceleration, such as passing on the highway, was pretty good, though you needed to floor it to really move. The engine was generally quite smooth with very linear power delivery. On the down side, this particular engine was in need of some more fine-tuning, as it would occasionally surge rather than accelerate linearly. A Honda engineer assured me, naturally, that this issue would be eliminated before the engine goes into production.

1.5-liter Turbocharged Inline Four-Cylinder Engine


Like the three-cylinder, this turbocharged four is meant to replace a larger four-cylinder engine, say something in the 2.0-2.5-liter range. With 201 hp and 192 lb-ft of torque onboard, it’s well-positioned to do that. Like the three-cylinder, this engine feels comparable in total performance to the engine it’s trying to replace but offers more punch in the mid-range. It also delivers very smooth, linear power. Go all the way to the floor and it’s even reasonably quick in a midsize sedan like our Accord tester. On the not-ready-for-production side, we noticed the engine was rather loud under acceleration and could be coarse at low RPM, just off idle. We also noticed that our CVT-equipped tester was cruising at 70 mph at 2200 RPM, which seemed at least 500 RPM high. Honda again assures us these issues will be addressed.

2.0-liter Turbocharged Inline Four-Cylinder Engine


This engine is a different story. While it may be called in the future to replace a V-6 engine, our test vehicle was a European-spec Civic Type R and it was tuned for performance, full-stop. And what an engine it is! With “275+ horsepower” and 295 lb-ft of torque onboard, this car was a riot. Hit the “R” button on the dash and at any RPM you get an impressively strong push back into the seat. That a turbo-four could feel this strong makes you giddy, and you keep flooring it just to get that rush again. The engine revs very quickly and pulls evenly all the way up the dial. In-gear acceleration is strong, but you’ll want to downshift just for that extra pull. If we had complaints, they would be that it torque-steers a bit when you launch hard. Another is that the throttle is too sensitive in R mode. We also noticed the exhaust was a bit dark, meaning the engine will require more tuning to meet emissions regulations, which we hope won’t spoil the power delivery. We very much hope to see this engine just as it is in a U.S.-spec performance model as soon as possible.

8-Speed Dual-Clutch Transmission with Torque Converter


This sounds odd, so let us explain first. This transmission uses both a torque converter and a dual-clutch system. A typical dual-clutch transmission replaces the torque converter with twin wet or dry clutches. Honda’s transmission instead leaves the torque converter where it is and places the clutches on the two gear shafts, each controlling half the gears. Honda says this was actually quite easy to do because its automatic transmissions never used planetary gears but were more similar to automated manual transmissions, but with torque converters instead of dry clutches. This new unit actually weighs about the same as Honda’s old five-speed. The reason for all this complexity is to get best-of-both-worlds driveability. While DCTs shift faster than conventional automatics and tend to be more efficient, they struggle with vibrations and smooth clutch engagement when starting from a stop. Honda therefore kept the torque converter and uses it to move the car smoothly away from a stop like an automatic would. The torque converter then quickly locks up and the dual clutches take over and do all the shifting. Thus, you get smooth launches and super quick shifts, as well as better efficiency.  In the real world, the prototype delivered on its promises. Leaving a stop was no different than any traditional torque converter automatic, with smooth acceleration and no hint of chatter or balkiness from the transmission. Once under way, the transmission changed gears lightening quick and so smoothly that we almost couldn’t feel them happen. Response to the paddle shifters was nearly instantaneous as well. This prototype struggled, though, with some downshifts. While some were smooth, others were harsh and abrupt. Engineers grimaced and admitted the software needed more work to eliminate those instances. Absent that problem, this transmission seems almost ready for prime time and could offer a compelling alternative to balky DCTs and slow-shifting automatics.

Steer-By-Wire

With the advent of electric power-steering racks, steer-by-wire is the next logical step as cars incorporate more safety systems and we advance towards autonomous driving. Disconnecting the steering wheel from the steering rack allows automakers to reduce vibration transmitted into the cabin as well as correct for crowned roads and crosswinds, or simply steer autonomously, all without the driver knowing it. Honda’s solution is a very good one. It’s first time out the door and still a prototype, but based on our time in the test car, Honda’s unit is hands-down better than Infiniti’s much-maligned (but recently updated) production system in the new Q50. Driving around a tight winding track in an otherwise stock Accord sedan, it feels barely any different than any of the regular electric power-steering systems found in production cars today. The only really noticeable difference is the complete lack of steering feedback and feel, as Honda hasn’t tried yet to simulate road vibrations in the steering wheel. Steering response, even when driving hard, was very linear and it always felt like we were getting exactly the amount of steering at the wheels as we were commanding at the steering wheel. The steering wheel felt nicely weighted for a family sedan and the weight built naturally with steering input. In short, it felt like driving any other family sedan. Aside from the lack of feel, the only other drawback was a lack of reaction during understeer. Normally, steering wheels tend to get light when a car understeers and you can feel the lack of grip. When pushing this prototype to the point of understeer, there was no change in the steering weight to signal that the front tires weren’t gripping. We hope Honda decides to simulate that effect in the future so that drivers will be more aware that they’ve exceeded the limits of grip.

Super Light Structure


Like all automakers, Honda is aggressively researching weight-saving technologies, as weight is the enemy of performance and efficiency. Naturally, that means the company is researching carbon-fiber and carbon-fiber reinforced plastics (CFRPs) as ways to bring down weight without sacrificing strength and, ultimately, crashworthiness. To illustrate what they’ve learned so far, Honda built a CR-Z hybrid on an all-new carbon-fiber monocoque tub with aluminum sub-frames for the engine and front and rear suspension. Though not a drop-in replacement for the standard metal frame, the new carbon-fiber tub weighs just 176 pounds. Replacing the metal body panels with carbon-fiber and glass-fiber-reinforced thermoplastic pieces cut the weight of the body in half. The lighter-weight body and frame then allowed Honda to reduce the size of the wheel hubs, brakes, wheels and steering system as well, and further savings could be found in smaller tires and a smaller drivetrain. In total, Honda took 661 pounds off this CR-Z, a 30-percent reduction compared to stock. The engineers say that’s good for a 30-percent improvement in zero-to-60 mph acceleration and a 20-percent improvement in fuel economy, jumping it to a combined 40 mpg on the U.S. test, up from 34-37 in production cars today. We've tested manual-transmission U.S.-spec CR-Zs accelerating from 0-60 mph in 8.3 and 8.4 seconds. Of course, this test car is a long way from production. The massive side rails of the tub make the door sills very high, so Honda installed what amount to power-operated T-tops in the roof to make more room for entry and egress. The seat is a racing bucket and the interior is only half-present. But, Honda says, it has a bone-stock drivetrain. That’s impressive, because it feels a whole lot quicker than stock.

Not only is straight-line acceleration improved, but throttle response is better across the board. Whether making a pass or powering out of a corner, the car feels like it has much more power and a more linear delivery. Upon entering those corners, the car feels more nimble and balanced, changing directions very quickly and in total control. We were able to place the car exactly where we wanted it on the road thanks to our confidence in its super predictable handling and response. It’s a shame this exact car won’t ever be for sale, as it’s a very fun little sports car very much in the vein of the vaunted Subaru BRZ. While we may not get this exact car, don’t bet against seeing carbon-fiber technology in future Hondas. The engineers say they’re working on ways to speed-up and automate the construction process to make it viable for mass production. Currently, carbon-fiber must be laid by hand in a time- and labor-intensive process.

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25 Nov 2013

AutoNews.com; Honda's new drivetrains: Sporty, green



by Hans Greimel and Mark Rechtin of www.autonews.com

In 2011, Honda Motor Co. CEO Takanobu Ito unveiled the Earth Dreams powertrain line. But the fuel-sipping drivetrains had critics wondering whether the automaker had lost its performance edge.

Now, Ito is answering the critics with a trio of turbocharged engines and the company's second dual-clutch transmission.

Those powertrain additions likely will be for smaller-volume vehicles. In a quieter, yet no less important, introduction last week, the U.S.-market Civic received a continuously variable transmission for its 2014 model freshening.

With the redesigned 2015 Fit hatchback also poised to get a CVT, nearly all Honda passenger cars with four-cylinder engines and automatic transmissions will have CVTs. Adding up to nearly 700,000 units a year in the United States, that's a huge commitment to a technology that hasn't yet won broad consumer acceptance.

The additions to the powertrain lineup mean Honda's Earth Dreams line now covers the spectrum from fuel efficient to sporty. Call it Earth Dreams 2.0.

Ito: Enhancing sportiness

The new downsized turbos deliver more power and better fuel economy than Honda's earlier naturally aspirated engines. Customers who feel the need for speed will be won back, Ito promises, by the latest eight-speed dual-clutch transmission.
"We want to enhance the degree of sportiness within the current lineup," Ito told Automotive News. "To that end, we are continuing to develop DCTs. And we are trying to come up with a more powerful engine lineup."

Kurt Sanger, lead auto analyst with Deutsche Securities Japan in Tokyo, said, "It's notable that they are putting their foot back into the turbo ring. For Acura, it can only be a good thing to embrace a bit more performance."
Toyota's Ogiso: Turbos across the portfolio

Industry trend


Honda is joining an industry move to turbos in an attempt to boost fuel efficiency without sacrificing power -- or to boost power without hurting fuel efficiency.



Volkswagen, Ford and BMW led the move to turbos. Toyota, Subaru, Nissan and General Motors are among those following suit.

Toyota, which has no turbos in its lineup today, will use turbocharged engines across its portfolio, Satoshi Ogiso, managing officer in charge of global product planning, drivetrain and chassis engineering, said at the Tokyo Motor Show. The first -- since the 1980s -- will be a 2.0-liter engine offered in the Lexus NX 200t compact crossover expected in 2014.

Subaru will put its first downsized turbo on sale next spring in Japan: a 1.6-liter engine in the Levorg compact wagon. That engine subs for a naturally aspirated 2.0-liter engine, said Naoto Muto, executive vice president for global engineering.

Honda's new engines include 1.5- and 2.0-liter four-cylinders and a 1.0-liter three-cylinder. The 2.0-liter turbo is projected to have 280 hp, which would place it atop the industry at that displacement.

All combine turbocharging and fuel injection with Honda's variable value timing and lift system, known as VTEC. Honda also said it plans a twin-turbo V-6 for the redesigned 2015 Acura NSX, but the company declined to give that engine's size.

Honda also introduced a new eight-speed dual-clutch transmission, which joins a seven-speed version that is used in the Honda Fit hybrid and next year's Acura RLX sedan.

Bam-bam-bam

"We want to gear the DCT system toward people who really love sportier driving," Ito said. "The gears shift, 'bam-bam-bam.'"

The 2.0-liter turbo will debut first, in 2015, in the European Civic. Yuji Matsumochi, the engine's chief engineer, said Honda is studying U.S. sales. The engine would replace a 3.5-liter V-6, he said. Honda says it achieves 10 percent better fuel efficiency and 10 percent better torque than the V-6.

The 1.5-liter is expected to arrive in 2016, and is geared toward North America and Asia, Matsumochi said. Honda is considering use in vehicles such as the Acura ILX and Honda Civic and Accord, but nothing has been decided, he said.

At a media event, Honda demonstrated it in an ILX. The 1.5-liter turbo would sub for a 1.8-liter or larger engine. Honda says it delivers 15 percent better fuel economy and 45 percent more torque than a conventional 1.8-liter engine.

The 1.0-liter turbo is expected to come last, possibly by the end of 2016, Matsumochi said. It is being considered for the United States, Europe, China and Asia.

Honda also released a CVT that had been revised since its intro with the fall 2012 launch of the Accord.

By not having fixed gear ratios, CVTs do not suffer "shift shock" during acceleration, producing a more linear acceleration feel than a normal automatic transmission.

But for some drivers, the sensation of a CVT's pulleys and cones finding the optimal acceleration and fuel efficiency can feel disturbingly like a slipping clutch. The 2014 Civic's CVT "will not interrupt the usual experience of a car," vowed Jay Guzowski, American Honda Motor Co. product planning manager.

Honda is far from alone in the CVT race. Nissan Motor Corp. equips the Sentra, Altima, Murano and Cube with CVTs. The redesigned 2014 Toyota Corolla has CVTs in nearly every trim level.
Honda's Iwamura: Serious CTV discussions

CVT issues


But the longer-term durability and reliability of some CVTs -- especially those combined with higher-horsepower engines -- has been an issue. Nissan CEO Carlos Ghosn has singled out the company's CVTs as prone to recalls. Volkswagen of America this year settled a class-action lawsuit over alleged defects of CVTs in 2002-06 Audi A4 and A6 cars.

CVTs also suffer greater parasitic losses than dual-clutch automatics in getting power from the engine to the wheels.

American Honda CEO Tetsuo Iwamura, speaking at the Los Angeles Auto Show, acknowledged that Honda engineers had "serious discussions" about migrating to CVTs. The consensus was that Honda would go with CVTs so long as performance and drive characteristics were better than those of the geared automatics they replaced. If not, Honda would stick with automatics or dual-clutch automatics.

Said Iwamura: "It's up to us how to allocate the technologies, according to the character of the model."

An Acura ILX outfitted with a 1.5 liter turbocharged engine.
 
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http://www.autonews.com/article/20131125/OEM06/311259938/hondas-new-drivetrains-sporty-green#axzz2lfT1dG7z

19 Nov 2013

Honda readies new turbocharged engines, 8-speed dual-clutch transmission

by Hans Greimel of www.automotivenews.com

Honda Motor Co. unveiled a series of downsized, turbocharged engines and an eight-speed dual-clutch transmission, rounding out its line of Earth Dreams powertrains with ones that offer more performance without sacrificing fuel economy.

Tetsuo Iwamura, CEO of American Honda Motor Co., declined to say which of the automaker's U.S. nameplates would get which engines. But Iwamura, who also heads Honda's automobile operations globally, said the automaker plans to switch its existing gasoline engines to turbos "as much as possible."

The unveiling of the new engines and transmission, and Iwamura's remarks, came during media events before the Tokyo Motor Show, including an advanced technology briefing at its global r&d center north of Tokyo. The show's press days are Wednesday, Nov. 20, and Thursday, Nov. 21. The show opens to the public on Saturday, Nov. 23.

Performance, fuel economy
The new downsized engines use turbocharging, direct injection and Honda's variable valve timing system, known as VTEC, to improve performance and fuel economy. The lineup:

• A 2.0-liter four-cylinder engine that puts out more than 280 hp.
• A 1.5-liter four-cylinder engine.
• A 1.0-liter three-cylinder engine.

"Other companies have downsized turbos to increase fuel economy," said Yuji Matsumochi, chief engineer for Honda's new 2.0-liter turbo powerplant. "Honda had to make an engine that has better fuel economy and more powerful torque."

The 2.0-liter turbo will debut first, in mid-2015, in a European-market Civic given the Type R designation. Matsumochi said Honda is studying U.S. use.

1.5 is the new 1.8
The 1.5-liter is expected to hit the market in 2016, probably early in the year, and is geared toward North America and Asia, Matsumochi said.

Honda is considering use in such vehicles as the Acura ILX and Honda Civic and Accord, but nothing is decided, he said. "It has potential for a wide range of vehicles," he said.

The 1.5-liter engine is seen as a replacement for 1.8-liter powerplants. Compared with a 1.8-liter naturally aspirated engine, Honda said, the 1.5-liter turbocharged unit provided 15 percent better fuel economy and 45 percent better torque.

The 1.0-liter turbo is expected to be the last to market, possibly by the end of 2016, Matsumochi said. It is being considered for the United States, Europe, China and Asia.

One Honda engineer hinted that the company will monitor the success of a three-cylinder engine that Ford Motor Co. plans to sell in the United States, to see whether American consumers will embrace an engine that small.

The 1.0-liter turbo engine yields a 20 percent increase in fuel economy and a 15 percent increase in torque compared with a 1.8-liter naturally aspirated engine.

Transmission transitions
The eight-speed dual-clutch transmission follows a seven-speed dual-clutch unit that Honda unveiled earlier. Compared with a five-speed automatic, the eight-speed dual-clutch gearbox offers an increase in fuel efficiency of 8 percent or more and an increase in acceleration performance of 10 percent or more, Honda said.

Honda pairs the eight-speed with a torque converter. That aims to smooth the jerky startup often associated with dual-clutch transmissions.

Although Honda engineers and executives declined to comment on specific models, they said the automaker's transmissions will be used roughly as follows:

• Continuously variable transmissions. CVTs will become Honda's mainstay, used in its small- to mid-sized vehicles, replacing manual and automatic transmissions.
• Dual-clutch transmissions. These will be used with 2.0- to 3.0-liter engines. Some executives said the seven- and eight-speed dual-clutch transmissions may be standard equipment on some vehicles, but will be optional on others.
• Traditional automatic transmissions. These will continue to be used in larger vehicles such as the Odyssey minivan.

RLX changes
Among specific products, the current 2013 Acura RLX, powered by a 3.5-liter V-6 engine, uses Honda's precision all-wheel steering system to enhance responsiveness.

The 2014 Acura RLX Sport Hybrid, which will go on sale next spring, will come with the seven-speed dual-clutch transmission and Honda's new Sport Hybrid-All Wheel Drive linked to the 3.5-liter V-6.

The SH-AWD system uses a three-motor hybrid system to redirect power, when the car is turning, from the inner wheel to the outer one to improve handling and performance.

The rear wheels get one electric motor each, while the third is integrated into the engine as a motor-generator.

• Traditional automatic transmissions. These will continue to be used in larger vehicles such as the Odyssey minivan.
The SH-AWD system in the 2014 RLX Sport Hybrid uses a three-motor hybrid system to redirect power, when the car is turning, from the inner wheel to the outer one to improve handling and performance.
Honda, without providing specifics, plans to switch its existing gasoline engines to turbos "as much as possible," executives say.


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http://www.autonews.com/article/20131118/OEM04/131119899/honda-readies-new-turbocharged-engines-8-speed-dual-clutch#axzz2l6V0uNIt